Gordy Gundaker expressed his desire for a rule change to normalize man-to-man fist fighting to settle on-track disputes rather than green flag retaliations.

In a recent episode of The Dirt Parlor Podcast with guest Ashton Winger, Winger brought up the topic saying, “I tell everybody, and I’m not saying that I don’t need it ’cause I probably would get it, but a lot of stuff would probably get fixed by somebody getting punched in the mouth. And I’m not saying I wouldn’t probably be on the wrong side of that sometimes.”

Gundaker then noted that is how things used to be settled in the past, “That’s the thing when you look back into the older generations. You go back to the late 80s, and the 90s, and the 2000s when (expletive) happened, you think about guys like Scott James. He would go after you no matter what. You had to decide, ‘If I’m going to go in here and crash this guy, if he’s 6’2 when he gets out of that race car and I’m 5’10 and he’s got 50 pounds, I’m going to have to deal with that.’ And you had to think. You don’t have to think. That’s all wash now. You don’t have to worry about that.”

“If somebody walks down and hits you in the mouth once. We all probably deserve it at least once. And you get hit you’re going to second guess that the next time. Real quickly you’re going to go, ‘Man, I really don’t want to  feel like waking up with a bloodied up nose and a black eye tomorrow. I might just give this guy a little bit more room tonight.'”

From there he shared an anecdote how he was involved in a pileup at the Prairie Dirt Classic with Shane Clanton and he immediately apologized because he did not want Clanton “swinging at me” because he thought he “wasn’t going to make it out of that one.”

Winger went on to share his own anecdote where he lost power steering during the Prairie Dirt Classic in 2022 and ended up taking out Tyler Bruening while the two were racing for the lead. He shared how he walked down and apologized to Bruening. “He’s got the beard. He’s got the stereotypical look of a logger. I was like, ‘Honestly, if you want to kick my ass, like you can.'”

Next, Gundaker shared a run in he had with Tanner English at Clarksville where the two were involved in a wreck and English promised he would get his revenge. It eventually boiled over at Brownstown in Illinois where English threw a slider on him that caused him to pancake the wall. Following the race, Gundaker marched down to English’s hauler and informed his dad, “Listen, we’re going to settle this right now and it’s going to be done with.”

When he arrived at English’s hauler, he shared that he was already out of breath, but once English spotted him he made a beeline to him. A wrestling match ensued when English slipped in a hole. However, the wrestling match expanded when Steve Lampley, Kevin Gundaker, English’s brother-in-law Rodney Melvin and a couple more joined in on and formed a dogpile. However, following the incident the two were able to bury the hatchet, “We got up. Me and Tanner didn’t talk for like a month, but we never hit each other. And then like a month later, we’re like, ‘Yea, yea. Like (expletive) it. We’re over this. I’m glad we got that out of the way. It’s for the best.’ But my dad, his old man, they raced together and that’s how they used to take care of (expletive). You had to deal with the repercussions if you wanted to run somebody over.”

Gundaker then took issue with how the rules are currently enforced in situations like this, “Now, they’re like, ‘Well, if you hit somebody under yellow or if you hit them in the pit area, or you go down and fight them, you’re thrown out. But if you run in there wide ass open under green and you KO this guy’s (expletive). All good. What sense does that make? It makes absolutely none.”

“You would think a guy like [Series Director Steve] Francis would understand that. But they just don’t change the rule. They leave it. Well, if it happens under green there’s nothing we can do about it. But God knows if you’re going 10 mph and you go up and rub his door you’re DQ’d. … I just wish they would get back to some of that. I’m not saying we should have open fight night every night we go racing, but damn, if a guy walks down there and socks somebody ’cause he run him over and destroyed his (expletive), we probably should just let that go. Hey, it was good TV. They’re going to market it. They’re going to put it out there and put it on social media soon as the video comes out and they’re going to be cheering it on, but we’re going to DQ you and take your money for doing it,” he concluded.

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